Friday, September 23, 2005

Our RooTs

Couple of days ago, i came across a small article in the newspaper, which created quite an impact on me..Here a part of the article..

The Malaysian Indian Muslim Congress (Kimma) passed a motion seeking the Government to give Malay status to Indian Muslims born in the country.

In the eight-point motion, passed at its 30th annual general meeting, Kimma cited provisions in the Federal Constitution, which stated that a Muslim who could speak Bahasa Malaysia and practise the Malay culture was regarded a Malay.

The contents of the motion, among others, stated: “The Indian Muslims adopt the three elements but still cannot get the Malay status. ...

...a special quota for the Indian Muslims in the allocation of low-cost houses, places in public institutions of higher learning, scholarships and employment opportunities.

The article was taken from TheStar

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For my blogmates from other countries, you may or may not aware of the term bumiputera ..basically, that is the status given to those who were native to this land..As such, they are given special rights on several important aspects which i don't wish to go further (and risking myself to be detained under ISA :P)

So, whats the issue?? The issue is about Kimma asking for Malay status..which is quite puzzling..Indian Muslims are Indians..thats something known to all..they are Indians who lead their life according to Muslim faith..Malays are definitely another race which reserve the rights of bumiputeras of this land, unlike Indians..Although the religion sentiments will show its colors now and then, i always regards Indian Muslims as felllow brothers..for me, they are Indians as well..

Though a part of me doesn't mind them seeking Malay status (their are Malaysians as well, right??)..a part of me feels rather sad..Sad that they willing to forgo their roots as Indians to attain something else..Is this what we want?

Today, they are asking for Malay status..one day WE, the Indians, living all over the world may start to feel shy about feeling Indians and will be asking status of whiteman (a request which definitely will be thrown out..)..

Should our roots to be forgotten??

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My sincere apology to anyone who may get offended through this post..it mere reflects my thoughts and opinion on the subject matter..nothing more..nothing less..

40 comments:

PuNeEt said...

hopefull 1st for the first time
:-)>

strawy said...

yepiee me 2nd

strawy said...

need to pick my nephew from school , will come back n comment laterz ,,, ewwwwwwww mez late ,,, muah babez byezzzz

strawy said...

lolzz wanna be 2nd , 3rd n 4th too

strawy said...

maybe 5th too

strawy said...

wat about 6th

strawy said...

hehhehe me crazy let me be 7th tooo .

strawy said...

ok ok last time 8th ... dont delete my comments sweety ... hehehe ... love ya

PuNeEt said...

Strawy has gone mad...
completely...

I'm moving out...
will come back on this...

Cheers...

First Nine comments have got nothing to do with ur post...

How strange blog pals u have ;-)
hahahhaha

Cheers

tulipspeaks said...

*am000nie welcoming the champ "PUNEET" for being the first..if you don't mind..muuaxx and hugsss..*wink wink

lolz..and st000nie..booking the num 2 till num 8th's spot..nah dear..me not going to delete my sweet pie's comments..never..

=am000nie=

Slice Of Life said...

hi amutha,
thanks for blogrolling my blog....
however "u have mentioned that it is a nice info about YOUR country.." to my blog on punjab....
WE DO CONTRADICT OURSEHLEVES
nationality is a complex issue after the concept of global village....dont people try to adapt to the culture of country they live in even if they belong to someother country...like indians in U.S asking for credidt card...what about the gen next....?
though i feel roots should not be disowned

tulipspeaks said...

uma..adopting the culture is a different issue..even i have worn cheongsam and i own a baju kebaya (tradional Malay custome)..but my arguement is about those who wants to change their identity all together..

you see..this is my 4th generation living in malaysia and i haven't forgotten my roots..i wore tradional clothes, even to campus..i speak tamil like no one's biz..i read, i write in tamil..i watch tamil movie..i sing tamil songs..and i have my race stated as INDIAN in my identity card..that is what i am talking about..

never accross my mind to change my identity of being an Indian into anything else..at any point of time..

=am000nie=

tulipspeaks said...

uma..

err...btwn ..isnt punjab a part of your country..i dont think i have erred in mentioning that in your blog

=am000nie=

Me said...

Strawy has gone mad ....hehe...like me.. (how about starting a maddy club ?)
Ammu... serious topic...I'm tired ...c u tomorrow... plzzzzzzzz dont mind.. zzzzzz....

tulipspeaks said...

awww..av000nie..tyt..but make sure you visit me back..i would love to see what is in your mind..

good nite....dream about me okie?

=am000nie=

visithra said...

amu i've debated this before - actually it started the other way round - msia indians n sing indians were called fake - so my views are all here;)

http://visithra.blogspot.com/2005/08/flag-or-heritage.html

tulipspeaks said...

visithra..i had just gone through your post..must say you have carefully written it, without any major outburst..

till now, i never consider myself less Indian (or..less Malaysian)..as you said we are living in the both world..neither holding an Indian passport nor being labeled as NRI..we are different and i am certainly proud of it..

what i don't understand why some people can feel ashamed of being called Indian?? i mean..look at the article i had given..whats wrong in being an Indian?? how can one even think of forgoing their roots just because certain 'privelages' given to bumis?? ennake kovem kovemma varuthula..unga alavuke ennake porumai illai..being a public uni student and the threat of ISA is what holding me from telling all my feelings over hee..

=am000nie=

visithra said...

Ive a capability to stay calm in direst situations - ehlam mudinja peragu than kovam pongi vahrum ;p weird but true

its for the business - ive come to a point i dont care what people do as long my convictions are true to who I am

southpaw said...

Hmmm...lemme think properly on it and then get back, quite a thought provoking topic.

southpaw said...

****Today, they are asking for Malay status***maybe its coz of the previlages u mentioned, they might enjoy after getting that status.
***the Indians, living all over the world may start to feel shy about feeling Indians***unfortunately i have seen a many of'em already feeling that way and there are most of'em who are already paying after the 9/11 and the other unpleasant incidents which took place around the world.
***Should our roots to be forgotten??*** thats again an unfortunate thing which is happening, though it shouldn't actually.
Apart from all this i have noticed a very large and i mean really large section of people who actually don't have any respect of their nationality and are ready on one feet to migrate outside india, coz they feel they do not get enough opportunity and bla, bla, bla!!!! I just wanna ask that section only one question...what have they given to their nation till date to expect those opportunities, etc, etc, etc from the nation???Bloody hell!!! i really gotta big mouth....why m i wasting my energy, i am gonna be attatched to my roots no matter what goes.

tulipspeaks said...

south

maybe its coz of the previlages u mentioned, they might enjoy after getting that status.
does our roots become such a lame thing till it can be traded for some privelages???

are ready on one feet to migrate outside india, coz they feel they do not get enough opportunity
it is not the question of migrating..even my ancestors migrated to Malaysia (then Malaya) during British occupation to seek a better life..its my question of one forgetting what they are in foreign land (or in some cases, in their own land)..nothing wrong in settling down in a different country, but its our intiative of preserving the culture and being proud of the word "Indian" is what matters..at least to me..

=am000nie=

southpaw said...

***does our roots become such a lame thing till it can be traded for some privelages???***maybe it does, there are so many examples of that.
***nothing wrong in settling down in a different country,***ya nothing wrong in it as long as u are not cursing it after u get SETTLED down there, or if u don't make any effort in ur country and simply keep on cursing it, i was talking about that section of people.

Michelle said...

i tink ppl shud follow da culture o which eva country they r residin in but not forget their own culture.

musings (m000nie) said...

awww am00... i think wat u said is absolutely right... nothin more nothin less...

PuNeEt said...

Ye that’s a very serious topic…
I don’t find it strange or puzzling…

BTW… how would “status” differ from “citizenship”…
I’ve no idea about this…

Bumiputera … is close to a hindi word Bhumiputra
Which means the child born on this land
So if a child is born in the land of a country he automatically gets that status…

I don’t think it’s about feeling shy…
It’s about getting those benefits, which might impact the kid’s future….
I’m still not familiar with that “malay status” funda so it’s difficult for me to gudge…
Cheers

tulipspeaks said...

michelle..you are rite about not forgetting our roots and identity..

m000nie..muuaxx dear..

=am000nie=

tulipspeaks said...

Puneet..

how would “status” differ from “citizenship”…
I’ve no idea about this…

I’m still not familiar with that “malay status” funda so it’s difficult for me to gudge…


alrite..malays are bumiputeras of this land..they reserve some privelages which Indians and Chinese don't..it was a pact that was made between them and immigrants during British occupation when we got our independence..we will get m'sian citizenship and Malays will be bumiputeras..

Hope you understand this Puneet..

Now, when Kimma is asking for Malay status for their people (Indian Muslims)..it means they wanna change their race from Indians to Malays..indirectly giving them the privelages of bumiputeras..

I personally don't think this will be accepted by the government, but its the thoughts of Kimma which made me sad..trading the race in order to gain privelages?? A big no-no..

=am000nie=

Me said...

**Should our roots to be forgotten??

Certainly not.... though it somewhat depends upon the mindset of the individual..

BUT ! i think.. its very difficult to be indifferent to the culture of the country they were born in .... why not strike a balance between these two cultures...

parents should also shoulder the responsibility of inculcating their culture into their children....

"Culture is not a biologically transmitted complex."~Ruth Benedict.

It only be acquired,but not necessarily inherited.

good night...sweet dreams....

Me said...

In this context, Jesse Lee Bennett said, "The acquiring of culture is the development of an avid hunger for knowledge and beauty".

Invincible said...

AFAIK,
all indians born in the US get US citizenship, and hence all the rights any other US citizen gets.

I dont really advocate nor rebuff any such movements as i dont have any idea of what is actually going on. Most of the times, we all oblivious to what goes behind such political motions.

The world has come to a stage where we all r next door nebors.

One can still preserve his/her culture/ethics irrespective of where s/he resides or which country's passport one holds.

Keshi said...

Very interesting topic Amu...

Well I wud have to agree with v000nie (Invincible). He said it all.

Also even if we r Indians/Chinese etc if we chose a certain country to live, I believe that obtaining citizenship in that country isnt forgetting ur roots - its rather getting the benefits while u live there.

After all a piece of paper and a new title cant make u forget where u came from nah? Ur origin should be in ur heart...

Keshi.

tulipspeaks said...

av000nie

why not strike a balance between these two cultures...

striking the balance is a one issue..trading the culture is another..till now, i never had any problems/dillema on balancing my culture with Malaysian culture, av000nie..

and it is not about the parents responsibilties on teaching the children on culture i am talking about..its about a whole community wanting to change its indentity..although its individuals which makes an instituition, an instituition like lay the path for the individuals to follow..

in this case, when the community demands their status (race) to be changed..it is going to affect the flow..it is going to affect the thinking of future generation..they are brushing aside the fact that they are Indians..and this is NOT a matter of an individual..it is a matter of an instituition, which i think its a great problem..

=am000nie=

tulipspeaks said...

invisible & k000kie

hmm..see..it is NOT the matter of ones uploading their culture in foriegn land.. we, the Malaysian Indians had been doing that for more than a century here..we are all Malaysian citizens, something we are proud of..but never across our mind to acquire Malay status!! despite the fact that we speak Malay, we do follow their culture in certain ways (assimilation does wonders here), we wear their traditional clothes..

but when a community (Indian Muslim in this case) asking their race to be changed from Indians to Malays..i feel this is a serious matter to be considered..

being a citizen of a different country and trading ones race for another for some privelages are totally 2 different things all together..

and i am against it!

=am000nie=

tulipspeaks said...

After all a piece of paper and a new title cant make u forget where u came from nah? Ur origin should be in ur heart...

Name: so & so

Sex : f / m

Nationality: Malaysian

Race : Indian..oppss..now, its Malay


k000kie..i think this does create an huge impact on the community's identity..it will change everything

=am000nie=

Keshi said...

ok ok Amu I got u clearly now...so u mean they are changing the RACE entirely to Malay?

I think thats impossible na? Which govt allows that - I neva heard this b4!

Keshi.

tulipspeaks said...

yes k000kie..u got it now..i don't think this had ever happened in any part of the world, and ever will..i mean, changing one's ethicity is impossible right? no government will allow this..especially when race being sensitive issue in Malaysia

=am000nie=

Keshi said...

so u mean the malaysian govt hasnt given the OK yet? what kind of idiots r asking for this?

Keshi.

tulipspeaks said...

no they haven't and i don't think they will ever show green light

=am000nie=

Keshi said...

goshh thats good!

Keshi.

tulipspeaks said...

=The Verdict=

The poll results showed that 87% of the respondents feels that Kimma's request for Malay status is inappropriate and unacceptable..

i feel the same..and thank you for sharing my views in this

=am000nie=